Is there an online source for Canadian IAP charts like there is for the
NACO one's? (i.e. -- free or nearly so)

Thanks.

Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

>Is there an online source for Canadian IAP charts like there is for the
>NACO one's? (i.e. -- free or nearly so)

Not that I'm aware of. I've had some success with asking people on this board
to email or fax me approach plates. For enroute and sectionals I've never gone
beyond the overlap from US charts, and never had any problems.

"Ron Rosenfeld" > wrote in message
...
> Is there an online source for Canadian IAP charts like there is for the
> NACO one's? (i.e. -- free or nearly so)
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

Not really. Navcan has the exclusive market for Canada Air Pilot approach
plates.

However, a limited number are available here (perhaps by accident):

https://164.214.2.62/products/digitalaero/terminals/termindex.cfm?versionname=V0407&regionname=CANADA/

a. There appear to be some "security certificate" issues with the site,
b. I don't know how current the data is....
c. They do not have ALL the airports with instrument approaches in Canada
d. For any individual airport, they do not necessarily have all the
available approaches

In a previous article, "Icebound" > said:
>However, a limited number are available here (perhaps by accident):
>
>https://164.214.2.62/products/digitalaero/terminals/termindex.cfm?versionname=V0407&regionname=CANADA/
>
>a. There appear to be some "security certificate" issues with the site,
>b. I don't know how current the data is....
>c. They do not have ALL the airports with instrument approaches in Canada
>d. For any individual airport, they do not necessarily have all the
>available approaches

e. These are not Canadian approach plates, but US Air Force approach
plates for airports in Canada. The format is a little different, and I
doubt these would be legal under the CARs.


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Hi Ron,

I just received an order of approach plates, sectionals, facilities
directory, low alt enroute charts from http://www.vippilot.com/ They had
the cheapest prices and shipping. Sporty's wants to charge on par in USA
dollars for list price Canadian. In other words, they mark up the price by
30%.

Cheers,
Derrick

"Ron Rosenfeld" > wrote in message
...
Is there an online source for Canadian IAP charts like there is for the
NACO one's? (i.e. -- free or nearly so)

Thanks.

Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:47:19 -0400, Ron Rosenfeld >
wrote:

>Is there an online source for Canadian IAP charts like there is for the
>NACO one's? (i.e. -- free or nearly so)
>
>Thanks.
>
>Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

Thank you all for that information.

I am considering dropping my eastern Canada JeppView subscription and will
check out your various suggestions.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 19:41:04 +0000 (UTC), (Paul
Tomblin) wrote:

>These are not Canadian approach plates, but US Air Force approach
>plates for airports in Canada. The format is a little different, and I
>doubt these would be legal under the CARs.

Do the CAR's require that you have a particular brand of chart for
non-commercial aviation activities?


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

I too checked around and found http://www.vippilot.com/ to be the
cheapest. I plan to buy the next cycle of charts from them at the end of
the month.

Depending on where you are flying, you might be able to get away with US
charts. Most of Ontario and the eastern provinces (below the 49th
parallel) is included in the US charts. A lot of Canadians use
www.aeroplan.com, which is a US service. It is a real shame that
Canadians have to use a US service to get information about their own
country (I'm Canadian, so I can criticize my own country). I wish Nav
Canada would release its tight grip on the copyrights.







"Derrick Early" > wrote in
:

> Hi Ron,
>
> I just received an order of approach plates, sectionals, facilities
> directory, low alt enroute charts from http://www.vippilot.com/
> They had the cheapest prices and shipping. Sporty's wants to charge
> on par in USA dollars for list price Canadian. In other words, they
> mark up the price by 30%.
>
> Cheers,
> Derrick
>
> "Ron Rosenfeld" > wrote in message
> ...
> Is there an online source for Canadian IAP charts like there is for
> the NACO one's? (i.e. -- free or nearly so)
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)
>
>
>

On 19 Jul 2004 21:57:38 GMT, Andrew Sarangan >
wrote:

>Depending on where you are flying, you might be able to get away with US
>charts.

I could use the US charts for enroute. My problem is the IAP charts.




Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

"Ron Rosenfeld" > wrote

>My problem is the IAP charts.
>
>

Single-copy (non-subscription) sets for any one of the 6 areas, sell for
only 20 bucks Canadian.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?D2E3659D8

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:54:38 GMT, "Icebound"
> wrote:

>
>"Ron Rosenfeld" > wrote
>
>>My problem is the IAP charts.
>>
>>
>
>Single-copy (non-subscription) sets for any one of the 6 areas, sell for
>only 20 bucks Canadian.
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?D2E3659D8
>
>
>

Thank you for that link. I see that subscription sets are also available,
but I'm not sure how the handling charge is computed. But I will check it
out when my JeppView subscription expires.

It will certainly be MUCH less expensive.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

In a previous article, Ron Rosenfeld > said:
>Thank you for that link. I see that subscription sets are also available,
>but I'm not sure how the handling charge is computed. But I will check it
>out when my JeppView subscription expires.

A year subscription for the Canada Flight Supplement, one en-route chart,
the Toronto VNC (sectional) and the CAP-4 (approach plates for Ontario)
costs me about $200 CDN including shipping.

--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
The implication of the camel on the front of the Perl book is, I think, quite
clear: Perl programmers permanently have the hump and are predisposed towards
spitting. -- Jonathan Page

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 23:01:12 +0000 (UTC), (Paul
Tomblin) wrote:

>In a previous article, Ron Rosenfeld > said:
>>Thank you for that link. I see that subscription sets are also available,
>>but I'm not sure how the handling charge is computed. But I will check it
>>out when my JeppView subscription expires.
>
>A year subscription for the Canada Flight Supplement, one en-route chart,
>the Toronto VNC (sectional) and the CAP-4 (approach plates for Ontario)
>costs me about $200 CDN including shipping.

All I will require will be the CAP7 and CAP5 subscriptions. On the
NAVCANADA site they are $45C each. There is also a $30C handling charge
but it's not clear if it's for each subscription or just once for the
order.

On the VIP site, the subscription price is not listed.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

In a previous article, Ron Rosenfeld > said:
>On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 23:01:12 +0000 (UTC), (Paul
>Tomblin) wrote:
>>A year subscription for the Canada Flight Supplement, one en-route chart,
>>the Toronto VNC (sectional) and the CAP-4 (approach plates for Ontario)
>>costs me about $200 CDN including shipping.
>
>All I will require will be the CAP7 and CAP5 subscriptions. On the
>NAVCANADA site they are $45C each. There is also a $30C handling charge
>but it's not clear if it's for each subscription or just once for the
>order.

It's $30 for the whole subscription. To break down what I pay, it's $99
for a year's worth of CFS, $45 for a year's worth of CAP-4, $12 for a
year's worth of the low altitude en-route, $12 for a year's worth the
Terminal Area Charts, and $35 service charge for a total of $203 CDN. I
forgot, I don't subscribe to the VNC because it doesn't change on a
regular schedule.

I usually get my Canadian charts a few days before the delivery of my US
charts from Airways.

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****ting in your pants because that's where your asshole happened to be."
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:08:25 +0000 (UTC), (Paul
Tomblin) wrote:

>It's $30 for the whole subscription. To break down what I pay, it's $99
>for a year's worth of CFS, $45 for a year's worth of CAP-4, $12 for a
>year's worth of the low altitude en-route, $12 for a year's worth the
>Terminal Area Charts, and $35 service charge for a total of $203 CDN.

Thanks for that info.

So for what I will need it looks like $45 x2 + $35 or $125 CDN.

Again, for where I'd be flying, my US enroute charts will cover the area.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

In a previous article, Ron Rosenfeld > said:
>On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:08:25 +0000 (UTC), (Paul
>Tomblin) wrote:
>>It's $30 for the whole subscription. To break down what I pay, it's $99
>>for a year's worth of CFS, $45 for a year's worth of CAP-4, $12 for a
>>year's worth of the low altitude en-route, $12 for a year's worth the
>>Terminal Area Charts, and $35 service charge for a total of $203 CDN.
>
>Thanks for that info.
>
>So for what I will need it looks like $45 x2 + $35 or $125 CDN.
>
>Again, for where I'd be flying, my US enroute charts will cover the area.

If you're going to be doing approaches anywhere near the covered airports,
you might want the Terminal Area Chart as well. It's one chart, and it
covers Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Saskatoon, Regina, Winnipeg, Thunder
Bay, Windsor, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Quebec, Moncton, Halifax, Gander,
and Keflavik (yes, really). It will show you the navaids and fixes around
each coverage area in greater detail.


--
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Hardware, n.:
The parts of a computer system that can be kicked.

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:52:49 +0000 (UTC), (Paul
Tomblin) wrote:

>If you're going to be doing approaches anywhere near the covered airports,
>you might want the Terminal Area Chart as well. It's one chart, and it
>covers Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Saskatoon, Regina, Winnipeg, Thunder
>Bay, Windsor, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Quebec, Moncton, Halifax, Gander,
>and Keflavik (yes, really). It will show you the navaids and fixes around
>each coverage area in greater detail.

I will keep that in mind.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

Andrew Sarangan > wrote:
>I too checked around and found http://www.vippilot.com/ to be the
>cheapest.

I've done a bunch of business with them, and service has been
consistently excellent as well. Highly recommended, mail-order or in
person.